Should Venom be “creepier” in his solo film?
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- By rpmcmurphy
I say yes, and so does Venom creator Todd McFarlane. I know that my opinion doesn’t mean too much, but his does. I think he should be the first person that whoever ends up doing this film should talk to. McF, as I like to call him, is concerned with how his character will be brought to his fans on the big screen. I know that a lot of you are saying that he has already been brought to the big screen. This is true, and I don’t want to take anything away from Topher Grace, but in his own film I think Venom should be bigger and badder. In an interview found on newarama.com, McF talks about the complexities of giving a villain like Venom his own film. I will give you some of the what was said:
“When I created him, he was a monster first, then a guy underneath,” said Todd McFarlane, the artist behind Venom’s first appearance in Amazing Spider-Man #299. “He should be creepier than what he was in Spider-Man 3.”
“I always thought Spider-Man was a skinny runt of a guy, and his villains felt more formidable if they were physically more superior,” McFarlane explained, saying that when he first drew Venom, he didn’t even know there was supposed to be a guy inside the suit. “I didn’t realize until afterward that it was Eddie Brock underneath… which is why the proportions are the way they are [in the comics], with the big jaws and the hunching. I pictured him as a creature, and not a human being in a costume.”
But even if the new Venom is “creepier,” the artist questioned the idea of a villain being the center character of a Spider-Man spin-off. “I’m thinking about how they want to make anti-heroes nowadays,” he said, using the Halle Berry Catwoman film as an example. “Those don’t work. The reason they’re so cool as a bad guy is because they’re bad. And as soon as you try to give too much humanity to them, then you go, no! Now they’re not as good as a bad guy because you’re trying to redeem them.”
He said that although “smart people can make things happen in other ways,” he doesn’t think Venom can make an audience care about him if he’s still a villain. McFarlane said that Don Corleone and the Sopranos are examples of characters who were able to entice viewer sympathy despite their villainy, “but they were human. Can you bring that mentality to Venom and make it work? Or do you make him all bad?
“You’re trying to give something to people when they leave. I don’t know if you can have a movie about a guy who goes out there and maims everybody and wins all the time,” he said. “I don’t know what their mindset is and how they can get there other than adding too much niceness to him, but we’ll see.”
I think that, form a comic geeks standpoint, a balls to the walls Venom movie would be great. He is one of the most unrelenting villains, next to Carnage, in comic book history. I would love to see a rated R Venom film. I feel that his character is more suited to an adult audience. Unfortunately, all the studios care about is money, and they know that kids (or the kids parents) spend the most money at the movies. I think they are going to go for the PG to PG-13 range. I think they should wait until the X-Men Origins: Wolverine movie hits until they make any decisions. That movie will test the boundaries on violence in a comic book movie. I wish that I was in control of the filming of this movie. I would not hold back. No character in the movie would be safe. Oh well, one can dream.
Well fellow soldiers, I am really excited to find out what you think about this. I will keep you posted on anything that develops on this. Until then, let me know what you think.
McMurphy (should be potential director of the Venom movie) Out!
If they hold back on what Venom really is then they shouldn’t even bother making the film because fanboy and goirls will be pissed off when it sucks ass. We all know they are going to do a PG-13 Venom movie so whats the point of making it. Venom is an evil killing bastard. Not a semi bad guy that likes to kick people in the face. He wants to bite their face off. See how that works?
marcos
I have to say that the Venom in Spiderman 3 was a mockery of the venom I knew and loved. Up until Sam Raimi completely destroyed him, Venom was my favorite villain of all time, because he was badass and very sadistic. Spiderman 3 made him a hybrid human that sometimes went fully masked. As far as I remember, Venom never did anything like that in the comics. He was either Eddie Brock or Venom. Topher Grace should have stuck to that 70’s show, because I’m sure that part of the reason for the hybrid was that he wanted face time. Of course, Sam Raimi completely screwed up Spiderman in the 3rd movie by making black-suit spiderman an emo punk, instead of a badass.
Due to the sensitive pricks in the MPAA, a venom movie that really did venom justice would get a rating of NC-17, but an R rated movie would probably be worth watching. Unfortunately, too many directors are not trying to cater to the fan base, but instead want to bring the product to those who don’t already know the story, and a venom movie would probably end up with another watered down Venom to the tune of a PG-13 rating. Bring in a director like Quentin Tarantino, and there might be some hope, but any of those conservative, fresh out of college directors just don’t have the balls to bring us a good venom movie.
Personally, I wouldn’t be concerned with Venom’s “niceness” in terms of being a villain. For a long time he did a vigilante thing in San Francisco and New York. He defended innocents sure enough, and th reader could root for him. At the same time, anyone he fought usually were strangled with their own intestines.
I will agree, on that note, that a solo Venom flick should be indulged with a higher rating. Vigilante or not, any lack of intestinal asphyxiation would be a sore disappointment. Venom is my most favorite Super…thing of all time. He needs redemption for his lack of face time in Spidey 3, and a movie that’s nothing short of totally badass will make up for that.
personally, i think that venom in spiderman 3 was a complete disappointment. the venom i used to know was a 3 ton looking guy who always had his mask on. never took it off unless the entire suit was off. and although i was pissed that the image of black suited spiderman was changed in the movie, i think that toby mcguire and sam raimi did a pretty funny job on creating that part of peter parker.
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cheers to quentin tarantino doing a solo venom flick balls to the wall