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		<title>By: The Belated and Unnecessary Watchmen Review Nobody Asked For &#124; daniel hood</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Belated and Unnecessary Watchmen Review Nobody Asked For &#124; daniel hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PS. GeekTyrant alerted me to a very funny take o&amp;#110&amp;#32&amp;#87atchmen by Patton Oswalt, which I suggest you all &amp;#99&amp;#104&amp;#101ck out, HERE. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PS. GeekTyrant alerted me to a very funny take o&amp;#110&amp;#32&amp;#87atchmen by Patton Oswalt, which I suggest you all &amp;#99&amp;#104&amp;#101ck out, HERE. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said</p>
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		<title>By: Club Sammich</title>
		<link>http://geektyrant.com/2009/03/patton-oswalts-watchmen-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-4006</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Sammich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think i am now geek-crushing on patton oswalt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think i am now geek-crushing on patton oswalt</p>
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		<title>By: The Belated and Unnecessary Watchmen Review Nobody Asked For &#171; Acidic Insight</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Belated and Unnecessary Watchmen Review Nobody Asked For &#171; Acidic Insight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PS. GeekTyrant alerted me to a very funny take on Watchmen by Patton Oswalt, which I suggest you all check out, HERE. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ♡ Cяys†αL ❣❣</title>
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		<dc:creator>♡ Cяys†αL ❣❣</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still hated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still hated it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jett Loe</title>
		<link>http://geektyrant.com/2009/03/patton-oswalts-watchmen-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Torch, no I wouldn&#039;t complain if the movie was different than the book - it should have been - film is a different medium.

I&#039;ve read the book a few times but a film is a separate entity, (and besides there&#039;s already been a film that&#039;s close to Watchmen, both in it&#039;s innovative cross-cutting/overlapping dialogue and themes: Citzen Kane.

re: &#039;What part of the movie caused that that was not in the book&#039; = i could give a dozen examples = where the movie replicates the scenes in the book with visual fidelity but has no idea what the scenes mean.  For instance:

The attack on Dan and Laurie in the alleyway by the knottops.

In both the book and the movie, Dan and Laurie try to have sex but Dan is impotent. Later, they are attacked in an alleyway and soundly defeat the attackers.  In the book the final panel of the attack sequence shows Laurie and Dan together in a &#039;two shot&#039; - out of breath and ASHAMED.  The clear inference is that they realize that they are perverse people - who get off on, and are validated by violence - this realization that only through their perverse need for violence/being in danger are they complete leads them to don costumes again, engage in the fire rescue, prison breakout etc.

But in the film the fight in the alleyway is filmed to GLORIFY the violence and there is ABSOLUTELY NO SHAME in Dan and Laurie.  It&#039;s like the film doesn&#039;t get the point of the book at all.

That&#039;s the main reason this version of Watchmen is so poor.  They just didn&#039;t get it.

(then add to that no sense of pacing, drama, what real adult relationships are like, the nature of getting old, dying, incredibly generic choice and use of music...one could go on and on! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Torch, no I wouldn&#8217;t complain if the movie was different than the book &#8211; it should have been &#8211; film is a different medium.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the book a few times but a film is a separate entity, (and besides there&#8217;s already been a film that&#8217;s close to Watchmen, both in it&#8217;s innovative cross-cutting/overlapping dialogue and themes: Citzen Kane.</p>
<p>re: &#8216;What part of the movie caused that that was not in the book&#8217; = i could give a dozen examples = where the movie replicates the scenes in the book with visual fidelity but has no idea what the scenes mean.  For instance:</p>
<p>The attack on Dan and Laurie in the alleyway by the knottops.</p>
<p>In both the book and the movie, Dan and Laurie try to have sex but Dan is impotent. Later, they are attacked in an alleyway and soundly defeat the attackers.  In the book the final panel of the attack sequence shows Laurie and Dan together in a &#8216;two shot&#8217; &#8211; out of breath and ASHAMED.  The clear inference is that they realize that they are perverse people &#8211; who get off on, and are validated by violence &#8211; this realization that only through their perverse need for violence/being in danger are they complete leads them to don costumes again, engage in the fire rescue, prison breakout etc.</p>
<p>But in the film the fight in the alleyway is filmed to GLORIFY the violence and there is ABSOLUTELY NO SHAME in Dan and Laurie.  It&#8217;s like the film doesn&#8217;t get the point of the book at all.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the main reason this version of Watchmen is so poor.  They just didn&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>(then add to that no sense of pacing, drama, what real adult relationships are like, the nature of getting old, dying, incredibly generic choice and use of music&#8230;one could go on and on! <img src='http://geektyrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sarah!</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great rant. amazing movie. yeah, it was different in some aspects from the book, but what movie based off a book isn&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great rant. amazing movie. yeah, it was different in some aspects from the book, but what movie based off a book isn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Torch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jett, would you be one of the first to complain if the movie DIDN&#039;T follow the book?

&quot;Deeply misogynist and spiritually empty&quot;? What part of the movie caused that that was not in the book? The book has no heroes (few have noticed it has no villains either).

Why do people love Spiderman crying like a 12 year old girl but hate Doctor Manhattan admitting life is overrated? I&#039;m not getting it.

As for Oswald, he&#039;s dead on on one point. SOMEONE was going to make this movie. If you think you can tell me how they could have done it better, please be my guest!

---Torch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jett, would you be one of the first to complain if the movie DIDN&#8217;T follow the book?</p>
<p>&#8220;Deeply misogynist and spiritually empty&#8221;? What part of the movie caused that that was not in the book? The book has no heroes (few have noticed it has no villains either).</p>
<p>Why do people love Spiderman crying like a 12 year old girl but hate Doctor Manhattan admitting life is overrated? I&#8217;m not getting it.</p>
<p>As for Oswald, he&#8217;s dead on on one point. SOMEONE was going to make this movie. If you think you can tell me how they could have done it better, please be my guest!</p>
<p>&#8212;Torch</p>
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		<title>By: Jett Loe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watchmen was a profoundly depressing film.  The collapse of imagination and artistic courage personified.

Many people, myself included, don&#039;t dislike it because it doesn&#039;t adhere to the book - it adheres to the book too much: slavishly replicating comic book frames without any sense of what they mean.

It comes across as the work of a very hard-working adolescent - but a disturbed one - the film is deeply misogynist and spiritually empty - and don&#039;t get me started on the bad acting, including flat delivery and rushed dialogue.

And what about the complete lack of establishing any sense of dread, (watch Peter Weir&#039;s &#039;The Last Wave&#039; for tips on how to do this); or the understanding of pacing, tension and narrative in cinema?

I feel bad for everyone involved in the production - of course they worked their heart&#039;s out.  Better luck next time! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watchmen was a profoundly depressing film.  The collapse of imagination and artistic courage personified.</p>
<p>Many people, myself included, don&#8217;t dislike it because it doesn&#8217;t adhere to the book &#8211; it adheres to the book too much: slavishly replicating comic book frames without any sense of what they mean.</p>
<p>It comes across as the work of a very hard-working adolescent &#8211; but a disturbed one &#8211; the film is deeply misogynist and spiritually empty &#8211; and don&#8217;t get me started on the bad acting, including flat delivery and rushed dialogue.</p>
<p>And what about the complete lack of establishing any sense of dread, (watch Peter Weir&#8217;s &#8216;The Last Wave&#8217; for tips on how to do this); or the understanding of pacing, tension and narrative in cinema?</p>
<p>I feel bad for everyone involved in the production &#8211; of course they worked their heart&#8217;s out.  Better luck next time! <img src='http://geektyrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Snivellus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snivellus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said what I&#039;ve been thinking. For an Unfilmable masterpiece of literature, Snyder did a hell of a good job turning that into a 160 minute film. I&#039;m sure if he could&#039;ve made a 6 hour film, he still wouldn&#039;t have had enough screen time to do the novel justice. Snyder deserves credit for having an obvious respect for the material, making the best film he could with what he had to work with...I mean, after all, we couldve had a Paul WS Anderson version from Fox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said what I&#8217;ve been thinking. For an Unfilmable masterpiece of literature, Snyder did a hell of a good job turning that into a 160 minute film. I&#8217;m sure if he could&#8217;ve made a 6 hour film, he still wouldn&#8217;t have had enough screen time to do the novel justice. Snyder deserves credit for having an obvious respect for the material, making the best film he could with what he had to work with&#8230;I mean, after all, we couldve had a Paul WS Anderson version from Fox!</p>
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		<title>By: Awesomeness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awesomeness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find what he has to say totally irrelevant.  So what if he made 300 &amp; will make other movies?  So what if he gave the world &quot;extras&quot;?  So what if &quot;Catwoman&quot; also wasn&#039;t a good movie.

None of those address the issue of the quality of the movie.  Love it or hate it, none of what he says has anything to do with whether it was a good movie or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find what he has to say totally irrelevant.  So what if he made 300 &amp; will make other movies?  So what if he gave the world &#8220;extras&#8221;?  So what if &#8220;Catwoman&#8221; also wasn&#8217;t a good movie.</p>
<p>None of those address the issue of the quality of the movie.  Love it or hate it, none of what he says has anything to do with whether it was a good movie or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Fefta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fefta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Watchmen was not that it didn&#039;t adhere closely enough to the book, the problem was that the film was a slew of incoherent flashbacks and horrible acting. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I loved the book, but I&#039;m sorry to say that it just didn&#039;t translate. That&#039;s my take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Watchmen was not that it didn&#8217;t adhere closely enough to the book, the problem was that the film was a slew of incoherent flashbacks and horrible acting. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I loved the book, but I&#8217;m sorry to say that it just didn&#8217;t translate. That&#8217;s my take.</p>
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		<title>By: headphone</title>
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		<dc:creator>headphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>definitely the second time around allows you to just watch it and stop being a picky bitch. gotta say patton is right. it can&#039;t be the book. but it&#039;s as close as anyone would get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>definitely the second time around allows you to just watch it and stop being a picky bitch. gotta say patton is right. it can&#8217;t be the book. but it&#8217;s as close as anyone would get it.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loved the movie so much.  Saw it twice, I think I liked it better the second time.  Watching it in IMAX was definitely worth it, so much attention to detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loved the movie so much.  Saw it twice, I think I liked it better the second time.  Watching it in IMAX was definitely worth it, so much attention to detail.</p>
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